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afropete14    0

Ok I haven't officially become a switcher yet because I need to get a little bit more money but I am really anxious to buy it but I would like some advice on what I should buy. Right now I am thinking about getting a Macbook 2 Ghz, 1GB RAM, and the normal 80GB of HD space. My question is do you think this is a good system? FYI: I don't do anything too intensive but I do do some moderate applications. Also how much does it cost to upgrade the hard drive or the Ram? Thanks in advance.

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afropete14    0

Ok I had a brain lapse I just had the amazing idea to go to Apple.com to see how much it is to upgrade so I don't need that help anymore with that idea but I would still like your opinion on how the system looks.

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Your choice looks great I just have a something I'd like to point out. Don't get the black model just because it's faster, you can configure the white books to be exactly the same and they cost less. Other than that your system looks very good to me, the only question I have is how many users do you plan to have using this system? I've found that in a family setting with about 4 users logged in at the same time, each with their own apps open (iTunes IM programs, web browsers, etc.) you can run out of ram quickly. I have a 1.83 GHz Core Duo with 512 MB of ram, and it runs things just fine with just me logged in. Also if you pan on using virtualization software for serious work, or any use of Windows Vista, I'd get 2 gigs, a gig for running Mac stuff, and another gig for the guest OS.

 

This is just one Geek's opinion, and it is by no means the final word. I will be just as interested to see what others have to say (for my own education) as you will be.

 

-Tom

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afropete14    0

Pertaining to Tom's reply,

 

I will be the only user on the computer because technically I am getting it for school but it will also be my get away from life. So for a single user it runs fine with with the 512 MB RAM and 1.83 GHz, what are the most processor extensive programs you use? Also I do think the black Macbook looks better but there is no way I am spending that much money for a better look machine. The white ones are good looking too though.

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For a single user it runs fine, yes. However, I find that when I use parallels I can't do anything else because of only having 512 MB of RAM, I'm looking to upgrade to a gig, and I think you should go for the gig. Also, since these laptops come with a matched pair for RAM, I'd get the Gig now, it'll save money compared to an upgrade later.

 

As for the processor speed, I rarely max it out, even on things that usually would because of having too little RAM. The only things I really do that tax the processor are compiling programs and running old games in rosetta, which also sucks up RAM. Keep in mind also that I have the Core Duo, and the new MacBooks have the Core 2 Duo machines, which are supposed to be faster.

 

-Tom

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afropete14    0

Tom,

 

I didn't know that the older MacBooks didn't have the Core 2 Duo thanks for clearing that up. Do you think you would be able to notice the difference if you had the 2 GHz processor? Also I just looked at Crucial.com and it says you can buy a single 1 GB compatible stick of RAM for $66 or the set of two 512 MB sticks of RAM for $68 vs. $75 straight from Apple. Would you still go straight from Apple?

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I'm not a big fan of making orphans out of DIMMs, however, for a deal like that, I'd get the RAM from crucial. I'm sure by saying this I'm angering someone out there since this always seems to be a hot topic, but that's so much cheeper, I'd do it.

 

I'm also very intrigued at that RAM deal from Crucial. Like I said, I'm looking to upgrade to a gig, but now I'm thinking about buying that 1gig stick from Crucial. Could you please post the link to that?

 

There's also the debate about having matched pairs or not, here's what I've learned from experience. Having matched pairs is faster than not, however, if (for example) I have 2 256MB chips for a total of 512 megs, then I swap one out for a 512 chip, giving me a total of 768MB having the 768 is faster. It pretty much boils down to: matched pair better, more total RAM best.

 

Also, I don't think I'd notice the difference with the extra power for what I use it for. I bought the low end MacBook because I didn't think that I'd notice the difference. However, (not that this is reverent to this discussion) I have recommended getting the dual core over single core processors since with all the multitasking and multithreading going on today, that does make a noticeable difference. I don't want to talk you out of the fast one since it will have a slightly longer useful life, the choice is yours, all I can do is suggest things based on my experience.

 

As a last note, you can probably sell an orphaned DIMM to someone either here on on eBay or something and recoup some of your money.

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Graham    1

It depends on how much your time is worth to you and if you're happy putting RAM in. I think it's easy, but my mum would crap her pants if I asked her to do it...

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True about the comfort level with RAM, I just assumed they were since they listed it as an option. Also the MacBooks have the absolutely easiest RAM install for a laptop ever. You take out the battery and pull a little lever which releases the old DIMM an you slide your new one in the slot. I know there are people out there who fear messing with computers, but really if you can use a disk drive, you can upgrade your own RAM in a MacBook. The hard disk is also easily replaceable which is unheard of in a notebook. Apple really outdid themselves on the upgradability of this computer.

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Ignoracious    1

Well, doing it for the first time is certainly scary. You need to apply more force than you're comfortable with. It is no zero insertion force process, like with a processor.

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afropete14    0

Tom here is the link to the site http://www.crucial.com/store/listparts.asp...2Dinch+White%29

sorry it took a little longer than expected.

 

I actually have added some RAM to my brother's MacBook which I would have never tried but my dad being the chepo he is told me to do it so I did and just like you said I was amazed at how easy it was. It is actually that MacBook that my brother has that convinced me to switch because he is going into video editing and he heard that Apple's were better for that so he bought one and I messed around on it for a little bit and I fell in love. But that is for another day.

 

So I actually might be downgrading what I will be buying because of all the things I have heard to the lower model. So I will probably get the MacBook with the 1.83 Ghz Duo 2 processor and the 60 GB of HD space(I can always get an external drive or from what I hear it doesn't seem too hard to add one.) and then I will upgrade from the 512 MB of RAm to 1.25GB.

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Bandito    0

I just went through a similar scenario (ok, still going through it) with my sister-in-law who's off to college next semester.

 

Before getting a computer (of any sort) its always best to go through needs vs. wants. That fully loaded 17" Macbook Pro sure is nice. But its also tipping the scales at nearly $3800 (before tax, etc). Obviously portability here is a need. You may want to look closely at the difference in size between the 13" Macbook and the 15" Macbook Pro. My suggestion to my sister-in-law was to save some money and go w/ the Macbook and put some of the difference into RAM. My wife, looking at both my 15" Macbook Pro and my brother's new 13" Macbook thought that the 13" screen would be too small for her. Its really personal preference.

  • What do you expect to use it for? What kind of apps do you plan on running?
  • Are you planning on being a full switcher or a slider (someone who still uses Windows too)?
  • Do you plan on installing Windows here (either via Boot Camp or Parallels)?
  • Do you plan on any audio or video production (aside from tinkering with iLife's iMovieHD & Garage Band)?
  • Do you plan on playing games on your laptop?

All of these things will come into play when making a decision. Remember, the Macbook Pro has a dedicated video card with its own RAM while the Macbook uses shared graphics. It won't make a big difference for day-in-day out stuff like web surfing, playing music in iTunes, chatting, etc, but if any production is being done or games are to be played then it may have an effect?

 

In My Humble Opinion - the best option for an inexpensive Apple laptop that will give you the most "bang for the buck" would be with the 2.0 GHz 13" White Macbook. It comes w/ the same 2.0 GHz CPU as the Black, same 1 GB of RAM and the same Superdrive. Personally, I have 1GB of RAM on my MBP and wouldn't want to run it with 512MB. The HDD is only 80GB (compared to the Black's 120GB). But if you upgrade that option you're saving about $50 from the Black's cost .... if $50 for the color black is worth it to you, then go nuts. If you're planning on installing Windows then you're going to want the extra HDD space and certainly will want as much RAM as you can afford.

 

Just whatever you choose....GET THE APPLECARE Yes, it adds $250 to the price, but that piece of mind will be worth it IF something happens to your precious new laptop.

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sttrek341    3

i have a 15" macbook pro and its a great computer, for me the only problem is when taking it to school. that being its weight added to that of the textbooks. so you should also consider what else you are taking around with you.

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cfsporn    0

I have a Black MacBook c2d and love it. I take it everywhere I go and the only 2 problems I have are the glossy screen (HATE IT) and the airport process. I would recomend getting a ram upgrade, as it will improve your battery life and your performance. I use my MacBook for all sorts of things and I rarely go above 100% CPU (it is dual core so you can go to 200%). Even QuickTime Pro doesn't use both cores! Yet still it converted my 30 min video to a cell phone format in around 2 mins.

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I have are the glossy screen (HATE IT)

 

I love my glossy screen, but sincerely feel that Apple should make that an option, just because there are those out there that do hate it, you're not the first I've heard complain about that. How hard would it be to secure two different screens for the same machine one glossy and one not?

 

Also, what do you mean about the Airport process? You didn't elaborate and I'm very confused.

 

-Tom

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Flipper    0

I literally just got it a few hours ago and I am perfectly happy with it. It works nice and quiet and is not hot at all. I am not going to do any pro apps so the processor is fine. The wireless picks up every connection in the area which is great.

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afropete14    0

I have messed around on my brother's (1.83 Ghz 1.25 Gb RAM 80 GB HD) and my father's (2.0 Ghz 1 GB RAM 120 GB HD) and I really don't mind the glossy screen. I actually like it, it just seems clearer to me. Maybe it is just my mind making it up but if it seems better to me does it really matter if it really is?

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kensterator    0

The macbook is definetly a good start, it is definetly good for doing everyday work and could handle your computer life. You don't really need the pro version unless you run lots of processees that require GHz. Glossy screen would be a bad idea as it is easily smudged unless you want to watch lots of movies or need high quality.

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Webguy    0

As a recent switcher, I'd recommend the Apple Care as well... this being my first Mac, and it has an LCD screen, I definitely decided to get it. I love having the peace of mind of not having to worry about this thing for two years...

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jroller    0
As a recent switcher, I'd recommend the Apple Care as well... this being my first Mac, and it has an LCD screen, I definitely decided to get it. I love having the peace of mind of not having to worry about this thing for two years...

 

 

I would second that. I ALWAYS get AppleCare for my laptops, and often get it for desktops.

 

I tell the story of my daughter's computer (G5 iMac)... the biggest lemon I have ever purchased from Apple (and I've bought about 30 over the last eight years). In short, it has had two new logic boards, a new hd, sensor replacements, and a new power supply. Apple sent a repair tech to me for each repair thanks to AppleCare.

 

My son, who got the exact same model that Christmas, has never had one repair or even one call to AppleCare.

 

AppleCare is just a good idea, and if you ever need it, you will really be happy you got it.

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I have 1G MacBook Pro and a 3G MacBook Pro. I Am very happy with my purchase, the only word of advice that I can give is that be careful when your buying a first generation Apple product because in my experience they can have their issues. The second version of an Apple product is usallyrok soild!

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You will appreciate the beauty, elegance that Apple's brings to the table in software and hardware. The OS is so beautiful and the Hardware is very will built. You won't regret your Purchase (I hope)

Edited by Macs Rule They're so cool

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