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So, Adam talked about choice of web browser and the various options. I just wanted to put this out there in case anyone else is having the same problem. My mom is a realtor and absolutely positively can not do her job in this geographic market without using "Trend MLS" http://www.trendmls.com which ONLY supports IE 6.0 - the message displayed immediately after login reads "TREND Does Not Recommend IE 7.0 .... May 12, 2006...TREND's systems are designed for and currently, TREND only supports Internet Explorer 6.0. At this time, TREND does not recommend that members install IE 7. This product is still in testing. TREND will have more information on IE 7 as it moves closer to a public release." While one can generally log in via Safari, none of the actual website functions work correctly, even when you set Safari to pretend to be IE 6.0. You wouldn't BELIEVE the ignorance and arrogance simultaneously displayed by the Trend MLS customer support people, either.

 

All of which is to say my goal recently was to find a browser which (a) runs on the mac and (B) allows access to all of the functions of this website. While it is slightly buggy, in that sometimes you have to log out and log back in to get something to work, it seems Opera fits the bill. So if there are any other local realtors trying to do this, now you know.

 

-hillary

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I have had similar issues as the earlier poster- (Webhill)

My previous worksite only supported MIE 6 (windows only)- and actively discouraged us from using any other platform or browser- I only have a mac at home so I was totally at a disadvantage- and no sympathy from my work's tech dept.

 

Often I find I have to use 2-3 browsers for my daily browsing (non-work related) as not all Mac browswers are supported equally-e.g

*one of my banks does not support mac browswers

* http://csvu.net/- does not load properly in safari, camino, or firefox (no drop down menus) but loads in Opera

* many websites that offer options to customers (travel, photo printing, etc. ticket buying) are also problematic on the mac

* all yahoo web services provided by my own ISP (Rogers Cable, Toronto, Canada)are Windows only and are not supported on the mac at all

 

It is cumbersome and difficult trying to contact webmasters and tech support departments- and all too often they tell you to use windows, or MS IE and that they only support "certain" platforms.

 

The Opera browswer does seem to be able to handle more websites than Safari, but is not as elegant or as easy on the eye.

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My mom is a realtor and absolutely positively can not do her job in this geographic market without using "Trend MLS" http://www.trendmls.com which ONLY supports IE 6.0 - the message displayed immediately after login reads "TREND Does Not Recommend IE 7.0 .... May 12, 2006...TREND's systems are designed for and currently, TREND only supports Internet Explorer 6.0.

 

Maybe someday they'll have the going out of business sale that they so richly deserve.

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There is a little extension you can get for Safari, that allows you to go into 'developer' mode. One of the things this does is allows you to simulate other browsers. Trouble is I can't remember the name of it.

 

Otherwise I am sure that there will be something similar in Firefox that might be a little easier to find.

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Tinkertool can enable the debug menu.

http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo...fo/macosx/11967

 

 

 

 

There is of course always the option of using virtual pc or parallels or bootcamp ;)

 

 

Why? I do not have a macintel computer- I do not want to spend the money for VPC- why can't websites be "browser neutral" and/or why can't Apple/Mac browsers work with the WWW as easily as PC browsers? Why am I still feeling like a second class citizen on the web? Is it possible that some website programmers have never heard of the Mac?

 

I have tried this debug option but there are several sites I need often that still will not load on the mac (safari, opera, or firefox)- I use my windows nt pc at work when I need them- bummer-

 

So much for the halo effect!

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Saft enables the debug menu too - but I already tried that. Like I said in the original post, I'm talking about a website that does not work properly when Safari is in fact masquerading as IE6.

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It's most def about FLOCK! The best browser in town. It is the best of Safari(RSS, Look and Feel) and Firefox(Base,Expandability, Configurability).

http://flock.com/download

<a title="Screenshot_19.png" href="http://s55.photobucket.com/albums/g135/shik45/?action=view&current=Screenshot_19.png" ><img src="http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g135/shik45/th_Screenshot_19.png" /></a>

<a title="Screenshot_20.png" href="http://s55.photobucket.com/albums/g135/shik45/?action=view&current=Screenshot_20.png" ><img src="http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g135/shik45/th_Screenshot_20.png" /></a><a title="Screenshot_21.png" href="http://s55.photobucket.com/albums/g135/shik45/?action=view&current=Screenshot_21.png" ><img src="http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g135/shik45/th_Screenshot_21.png" /></a>

I switched easily withing minutes. At least worth a try.

By the way www.Trendmls.com works flawlessly!

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My mom is a realtor and absolutely positively can not do her job in this geographic market without using "Trend MLS" http://www.trendmls.com which ONLY supports IE 6.0 - the message displayed immediately after login reads "TREND Does Not Recommend IE 7.0 .... May 12, 2006...TREND's systems are designed for and currently, TREND only supports Internet Explorer 6.0.

 

Maybe someday they'll have the going out of business sale that they so richly deserve.

 

I don't see why they should go out of business for only spending the resources to develop some complicated code for just one platform, a platform used by 95% of the market.

 

With that reasoning Apple should go out of business for not releasing a version of OS X that could be installed on a Dell, I hate bigots.

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Making your browser show up as IE 6 is only going to get you around sites that will only allow IE 6 browsers, it wont make Safari act like IE 6 (thank gawd). The issue isnt really that Apple, or ayone else, has failed to make a browser that works with all sites, its that web developers arent sticking to the standards that have been set forth. If they did then Firefox, Safari, Camino and all the others would work just fine. It's when site developers decide its a good idea to use "IE only" code in their sites that everyone runs into problems.

 

I don't see why they should go out of business for only spending the resources to develop some complicated code for just one platform, a platform used by 95% of the market.

A) They arent developing for one platform, theyre developing for one browser who has an evershrinking share of the market.

 

B) The numbers that put Windows at 95% are incredibly skewed. They refer to number of OS copies shipped. Windows OS runs a ton of devices which arent personal computers like ATMs, medical devices, internal computers in cars, etc. The "95% of desktop computers" claim is way off.

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